Creating from Within with Judith Corvin-Blackburn

Walker Bird [00:00:04]:
My Inner Knowing empowering you to find your compass for the journey. We are dedicated to supporting you to rediscover and trust your natural ability to navigate life. Each day by sharing insight and experience through the lens of two professional communicators and their guests, we intend to prompt internal inquiry that supports all those willing to explore a unique path.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:00:32]:
Hello. Okay. Good to see you both.

Walker Bird [00:00:37]:
Yeah, nice to see you, too.

Theresa Hubbard [00:00:39]:
Yeah, good to see you. We're looking forward to the conversation today.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:00:44]:
I've got an interesting start for you. Yay. Okay.

Theresa Hubbard [00:00:50]:
Well, you go right ahead, Judith.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:00:52]:
Okay. All right. So, you know, I woke up. I was really looking forward to the interview that woke up at the perfect time, out of bed at my computer, and I get an email from my assistant saying, Your YouTube channel has been taken down. Yeah. So I'm like, okay. And I tried to find a few things, and it's in process. Right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:01:20]:
So that happened. And then I thought I pulled up another file. Word had totally closed out all the documents I had up, which was something I had to put on for Monday already. That worked out. Ultimately, I found a different file that it had gone into. However, it occurred to me that what's going on with the YouTube channel, because there was no reason for it to go down. I mean, there's never inappropriate content or deceptive content. I have been working with a other lifetime trauma ever since I published my first book.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:02:06]:
So this current book that we are going to talk about little by little. I keep working with it and working with it. By my third book, I thought I had it taken care of. One of the signs I get when it's not taken care of is technical problems. Wow. Right, Right. So here we talking about this book. And I just.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:02:33]:
I had gone through something recently that I had actually looked at my astrology, and it looked like, again, this book could be a lot bigger. My last book did really well, but this could do even more well. That activates the old cellular fears. So this book is about how we create our reality. Right, Right. So there I went, creating that reality.

Theresa Hubbard [00:02:57]:
Right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:02:58]:
So I'm going to uncreate it.

Theresa Hubbard [00:03:03]:
Wow.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:03:04]:
But it was really interesting. I thought. Well, really, once I got that, I thought, well, it's perfect timing. Great to teach off of. Right. Because we're all in process.

Theresa Hubbard [00:03:16]:
Yeah, Always.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:03:17]:
And we're all dealing with cellular trauma, whether from this lifetime or other lifetimes. And often we create both collectively and individually from our unconscious.

Theresa Hubbard [00:03:31]:
Yeah.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:03:32]:
Right. So there.

Theresa Hubbard [00:03:35]:
Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Well, we're looking forward to this conversation. Today, you know, when you.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:03:46]:
And.

Theresa Hubbard [00:03:46]:
And I guess Judith, I should say, do you feel like we've already started or. Or do you feel like we're getting ready to start?

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:03:57]:
I'm fine with it having already started.

Theresa Hubbard [00:03:59]:
Okay, good.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:04:00]:
Whatever the two of you are comfortable with.

Theresa Hubbard [00:04:02]:
Oh, we're good. I just want to make sure you were good, too, so, you know, we're good. We don't really edit anything, so.

Walker Bird [00:04:11]:
Not too much.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:04:12]:
Not too much. Yeah. I had heard recording had started, so I figured.

Theresa Hubbard [00:04:17]:
Yeah. Good. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, when it was so interesting when you, you know, reached out and told us your new books getting published in September, and, you know, reading the catalog, you know, that you had, you know, sent and obviously so curious to share about the book and also the. The parts that are in. I mean, the things that you want to share that aren't in the catalog description. Right.

Theresa Hubbard [00:04:47]:
You know, really just, you know, whatever you feel comfortable with. We just. We would love to hear the story and.

Walker Bird [00:04:56]:
Yeah. Well, before we dive into that. And I know that since you've been a guest previously, we've. We have your information, but I think it'd be helpful for our. Our viewers and listeners for you to tell us just a little bit about who you are and then lead into what brought you to this latest book.

Theresa Hubbard [00:05:13]:
Yes.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:05:14]:
Okay. Who I Am. Boy, that's a big one.

Walker Bird [00:05:16]:
It is a big one.

Theresa Hubbard [00:05:20]:
Thanks.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:05:21]:
Right, okay. So for the past. Let me count, actually, over 50 years, I've been a therapist. And even early on, because I got an MSW in the middle 70s, early on, I was always interested in whole it from a holistic perspective, or what I call a transpersonal perspective, so that I wasn't just about healing. Helping people heal emotionally. Although that, of course, is a big part of it. And not to be separate from the spiritual piece we're doing, but also look at it from a soul level. So that's where I started out.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:06:11]:
And early on, it was just super easy for me to, like, give a workshop. I prepare it at the last moment and not think anything about it. Where now I got, you know, it's got to be done ahead of time or I'm not comfortable. And so I. Even early on I was teaching some, I always felt I'd write a book. Interestingly, I went from a psychology major to an English major. One reason I did that, and this was in the mid-60s. I graduated in 68, so this was like 66, when I was at a small women's college in upstate New York.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:06:53]:
And the psychology department had four people and the head of the department, they were building a new campus. The head of the department turned down an experimental lab because he said, you girls are just here to get married. I was so mad. And I wasn't interested in experimental psychology. I was just so appalled that he did that that I switched to English, which turned out to be where I learned really far more about the psyche than I would have in psychology. But I always thought I'd write a book. But I thought it would be a novel. I didn't think I'd be writing.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:07:34]:
I guess we call it sort of self help books, spiritual self help books. So when that shifted for me, actually one thing that happened, I had an intuitive reading after I had a pretty good practice and I was offering workshops and this woman said to me as she was doing the reading, she said, you're not using near your full potential. I was frankly shocked. I had no idea. And now of course I understand it more. And you know, she said, you're supposed to be talking in front of large groups anyhow. So fast forward. I wrote my first book in which is called Journey to Wholeness, which was very much the type of therapy I did.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:08:21]:
It's kind of, you know, you don't have to pay for therapy. You can read the book and have a session or two. But when I published it, that was a self published book. When I published it in the early 90s, our local Barnes and Noble had agreed for me to go and do a book talk. All of a sudden I got so scared. Where it had been super easy for me prior to that to do public speaking, I was fine when I actually did the talk, but I got really scared beforehand. And then I got. I was teaching, I was an adjunct professor at a local community college.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:09:06]:
Also very easy for me. Except once I published that book, I started getting scared before every class. And that's when I began to do that real deep inner work of where is this coming from? And through, you know, consulting with other people, but also very much my own intuition and recollection began to understand it was from this very significant other lifetime which I've been working on for close to 40 years. So that's what came up again today, just as to kind of wrap that together. So once I started writing these books, my second book, I had no idea I was going to do it, but that took me nine years. Wow. And my third book came up real quick again. I seem to keep going to the I'm done.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:10:06]:
And then up pops another book. And so this current book that will be released in September, the 60 Ascension journey. Also, I had no idea I was going to write. Wasn't quite as dramatic as my. My third book, which, I mean, I literally had no idea. But this one came to me. I started it and it had several starts and stops. And I actually talk about that in the introduction to the book.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:10:39]:
And because my third book, Activating your 5D Frequency, which is when I finally stepped into a publishing house, which meant I actually could get help promoting the book.

Theresa Hubbard [00:10:54]:
Right, right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:10:55]:
Audience and many more interviews. That kind of thing was on the fifth dimension, which very much we are moving into in terms of our collective journey. For those. I don't know that everyone is. Everybody has the option. Let me put it this way. But you know, if you go on podcasts, you will see numerous teachers now out there teaching about 5D the model.

Walker Bird [00:11:24]:
I'm going to interrupt you for just a second. You got really, really quiet.

Theresa Hubbard [00:11:27]:
Something happened with your audio. Yeah, yeah, probably.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:11:32]:
All right.

Theresa Hubbard [00:11:32]:
Oh, it came back for a second and then you were gone again. That's perfect.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:11:45]:
Okay. I unplugged my microphone. Oh.

Theresa Hubbard [00:11:50]:
Tech. There's the thing coming up again.

Walker Bird [00:11:53]:
Sorry to interrupt you. I just don't want to miss out later with all the great stuff.

Theresa Hubbard [00:11:58]:
So I thought myself was like. I wasn't sure. So I'm glad you said something.

Walker Bird [00:12:04]:
Okay. Well, that'll be an edit.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:12:06]:
Yeah.

Walker Bird [00:12:06]:
First.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:12:07]:
Okay. If you want. I work with or entertain people with.

Theresa Hubbard [00:12:12]:
Right.

Walker Bird [00:12:12]:
Okay.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:12:14]:
So. But what I realized I. The model I use for multi dimensionality comes from Barbara Han Clow, who brought it in. It actually was used by Plato and I believe was taught in Atlantis, but pretty much went underground. And Barbara Han Clow first in her book the Pleiadian Agenda, but very much in her book Alchemy of Nine Dimensions. This clearly into our modern field.

Theresa Hubbard [00:12:45]:
Okay.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:12:46]:
And she. Both my last two books, including this current book, were very much formed from studying her book. And so what I understood is when she talked about the sixth dimension, that's where we create reality from. It's the quantum field. The. Some of the Native American elders called it the field of plenty. Everything. Oh, and Plato.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:13:20]:
This is really probably most important and so ironic because this is the. What great teacher at the base of Western civilization. He taught about it.

Theresa Hubbard [00:13:32]:
Wow.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:13:34]:
He called it the world of Forms Philosophy 101. I remember taking that with a very dull teacher who I don't think got it. I certainly didn't get it when I was teaching it. But it hit me as I'm reading about. This is that. That's really. Plato was really onto this. In this world of forms, or the sixth dimension, is every possible thing we can think, we can imagine being, creating.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:14:07]:
So it can be solid things. It can be my computer. It can be equality, love, distrust, whatever you want to put it all exists there. There's some physicists that are now backing this up, which makes it even more exciting. What actually shows up in 3D manifestation is sort of what gets the most hits, social media hits.

Theresa Hubbard [00:14:35]:
Okay.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:14:36]:
So if we're all visualizing world peace and have. We're not carrying unconscious beliefs that peace is impossible, then we'll have a peaceful planet. The issue is that peace is impossible also exists there. So it's what gets most energized.

Theresa Hubbard [00:15:01]:
Yeah.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:15:02]:
And we're still, I think, developmentally energizing from our unconscious.

Theresa Hubbard [00:15:07]:
Sure.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:15:09]:
You talk to. I'm sure the vast majority of people in the world would go, yeah, peace would be great. But, you know, we say, oh, we got to fight for our freedom. And we could go on and on, but you get my point.

Walker Bird [00:15:22]:
Yeah.

Theresa Hubbard [00:15:22]:
Right, Right.

Walker Bird [00:15:25]:
So your catalog references the. To the. To the. The Ascension journey, references multitude of tools that. That you are presenting to the reader to help them, I presume, be able to access that space and change the energy around items.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:15:41]:
Right, right.

Walker Bird [00:15:43]:
Could you tell us more?

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:15:44]:
Yeah, because I talk both about personal creation. Yes, right. And collective creation. But it's really an inside job. It's really. We've, you know, it's perfect for. For what the two in the podcast. This is about inner knowing.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:16:03]:
So it's more and more about how to get in and really go into parts of ourselves that have been hidden but that are participating in what we're creating. And so the first piece of it is awareness. You know, what you're asking, I think, Walker, to notice the beliefs we carry that are not the unconscious, or we'll call them subconscious because we're digging them out, that we carry that are not consistent with what we think we want. And so I go through a lot of that. Pieces of it. The part that was most fun for me is the sixth dimension holds sacred geometry, and sacred geometry connects us to the divine mind. So this is like, I don't know, it's. It's an entry point, perhaps, is the way to say it, into cosmic communication and understanding how we as individuals reflect this.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:17:18]:
Well, the same geometry is probably the best word I can come to on this as everything else in the universe. So all these higher consciousness aspects are created in the same way that we are. And you Know, you gotta. I'm not gonna go into all the details of it, but just to understand, we're just such a little microcosm, a little fractal of how this amazingly beautifully organized universe and as we are able to connect more and more to that, we light up more of that DNA that's been shut down. I don't know if I need to go back into the fact that 10 strands of our 12 strand DNA has been shut down. Little by little we're beginning to reopen, which is going to give us more and more access to what's been unconscious and to our inner divinity, which is where we really want to create from, not from our old fears, traumas.

Theresa Hubbard [00:18:28]:
Right, right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:18:30]:
So. So I had to learn a lot. I didn't know a lot about Sacred Geometry. It was great. It was so much fun. I had this wonderful teacher who's since passed and she was young, she was in her 50s, but I was able to meet her and connect with her, you know, while she was still on the planet. And what she offered was learning sacred Geometry by drawing it.

Theresa Hubbard [00:18:57]:
Oh, interesting. Okay.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:18:59]:
So it wasn't just intellectual, it was very experiential.

Theresa Hubbard [00:19:04]:
Right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:19:05]:
And so I learned to feel into it and then watched a really good thing on Gaia that helped me get the. The intellectual piece that's in there. Also, how to anchor these energies through like building our own altars. You know, again, understanding how, how we connect with this higher frequency world that we want to create for our planet ultimately.

Theresa Hubbard [00:19:34]:
Yeah. What. When you had the awareness that you wanted to write this book, what were you most hopeful for?

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:19:50]:
Oh, gosh, that's a great question. Well, one that I'd finish. Took a while. Well, maybe I can start here. When I wrote activating your 5D frequency, I knew I wasn't going to self publish it. I really wanted Inner Traditions to publish it. Okay. I was lucky because I had a close friend that was able to.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:20:19]:
It helps when you have a connection in publishing.

Theresa Hubbard [00:20:22]:
Sure.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:20:22]:
They turned it down the first time and I just felt. Which was not exactly like me. I was like, this is going to be published by Inner Traditions. I just, I just had this strong feeling. So I had to fight for the contract and I got the contract. Right.

Theresa Hubbard [00:20:39]:
Okay.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:20:39]:
This book, I knew no problem with the contract because the other book did pretty well. So I knew it was. I didn't have to do a proposal. I just had to send an email to their acquisition editor. And so that wasn't my. There's a very different concern than what the other. The Other book. Sure.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:21:01]:
What was I hoping for was that it would speak clearly to the message I wanted to get across, that it would help people understand how we create this reality, so that we really could create a loving, thriving reality on this planet, is what we're seeing right now, at least in the news. And I guess that's primarily it, and that I'd get to talk about it. Thank you.

Walker Bird [00:21:40]:
So in. In your research around that topic, have there been ages or. Or time periods across the, you know, the span of the planet Earth's history where that has existed in the form that you're. You're suggesting?

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:22:03]:
Oh, yes, I think it absolutely existed in Lemuria, which, of course, they're still saying doesn't exist, but so many people are remembering Lemuria. Right. And then Atlantis and Plato wrote a lot about Atlantis.

Walker Bird [00:22:23]:
Right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:22:24]:
Lemuria was much more feminine. And it didn't, I don't think, got out of balance in the way Atlantis did. Atlantis went through three periods of its fall and got out of balance. But when it was in full balance, which means that inner male and female, the yin yang was in balance. Right. It was amazing. And I think that just if we look at architecture, and I write a little bit about this, where the Lemurians were very. They didn't need complex structures.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:23:00]:
They were just tuned in. And I think they had beautiful structures, but simple. The Atlanteans was a more. Atlantis was more masculine, so they wanted more in the outer again, balanced with the inner feminine. And I think that the buildings. You know, what I get visually is these gorgeous, shimmering, brilliant colors. Probably colors that aren't even in our spectrum yet, fully in our spectrum yet, that aren't. Don't seem quite solid.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:23:35]:
But given the frequency that the population was, it worked perfect. It was a good match, to say it like that, but I think those were times of peace and those were times of great creativity and where everyone could thrive. There was an understanding that everything is alive. The Earth is a being, the trees are beings, on and on. So that there was a total honoring of all forms of creation. And that's what I see us coming to. And, you know, the belief on both Lemuria and Atlantis is that star civilizations had joined together to be part of both of those creations. And these are advanced civilizations that I believe are actually still going on there.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:24:36]:
But if you think about. If you live in this lovely star civilization, which. And there are some that still have conflict, but doesn't have conflict, is really open to more and more cosmic creativity, what else can we Create today. How can we solve this problem in a way that helps the galaxy whatever questions are being asked? So you come down to this planet, which has polarity, and maybe you don't know what the heck's going on. You might have a lot of wisdom that is super important, but when things get out of balance, maybe you're not prepared. And so I, I think that's part of what. And also quite naive. Right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:25:35]:
But frankly, the past life I've been working with, I was born in later, outside of somewhere around Greece. I don't know exactly where it was in this little village that was very high consciousness and that operated wonderfully. And it was just about the time the patriarchy was getting hold of at least Greece and probably other places on the planet. But. And I was concerned and I went and taught in what I think is now Athens, totally naive that what could happen. And I think what's going on now with our ascension process is we now we know it can happen. We've all gone through, you know, multi layers of the dark, really, whether, you know, it's all trauma inflicted or we were inflicting trauma, or we have the capacity to be everything. So now we're coming to this, this ascension process, after going through what I call a dimensional descent, much more aware, much, you know, well, I guess I'll call it wiser, but we have more street sense, so to speak.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:27:01]:
Right. And so I think that the next variation of higher frequency on this planet is going to be different in that way.

Theresa Hubbard [00:27:13]:
Yeah. Interesting.

Walker Bird [00:27:14]:
Nice. I like it.

Theresa Hubbard [00:27:16]:
Yeah. When you, Judith, what do you think got, you know, I don't know. As best as you can remember, how did this become a part of your journey? Like, how old were you? And then. Yeah.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:27:35]:
And we may have talked about this in our other interview. I had a spiritual experience when I was around 27. Prior to that, from age 12, I would have told you I was an atheist and thought people that were into religion and they were just, I don't know, immature, innocent. I don't, you know, I wouldn't have said nice things. Now, I was real open in my 20s when I, you know, I was open to astrology and yoga, but I, I still never thought of God or, you know, especially, you know, and when it's presented as some guy in the sky kind of image. But in my mid-20s, I was actually working. I had quit my regular therapy job, which was at a mental health center, which is very interesting. And two other friends of mine that I had gone to graduate school with opened up something we called the Evanston Group and we offered really, a lot of holistic workshops.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:28:46]:
I found the brochure, I went, whoa. We were ahead of the curve on this one. And so I had a. I didn't have any money, but in those days we didn't need any. So I had a. I had a lot of time. You know, I had my clients in the afternoon, but in the morning I could do yoga. And I started reading a book a friend of mine gave me called the Autobiography of a Yogi by Yogananda.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:29:16]:
I mean, he was one of the first Eastern yogis to come to the United states in the 20s, I think, and teaching Eastern philosophy. But his book was amazing. And I would read a couple of pages and then I would do yoga, and then I'd go through my day, and then I'd hang out with my friends or smoke pot, as we did back in the day. And I was really interested in metaphysics, so I wasn't into really partying, that the drug use wasn't about partying for me. And I started having these visions. And one night it was Full Moon in Scorpio, and my whole unconscious started opening up. And, you know, I just. It was amazing.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:30:06]:
And at one point, I was getting so much information that in this, again, I was already a therapist by this time. And I went, I don't have a strong enough ego to deal with this. And I stopped. And then it would seep in little by little. But that was a religious experience. You know, at the time, I was like, oh, it was just because of the pot. You can tell how old I am. So I started researching, reading William James, Varieties of Religious Experience.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:30:41]:
And I was finding a lot of religious experience. Experience did. Did involve a substance which is different than substance abuse. So that helps me feel like it was a legitimate experience, but it really. It shifted my whole view of the plan, of everything. Life has never been the same. I've been partly, sort of all my young adult angst was able to kind of disappear as I was. I had this higher perspective, you know, and of course, I was still having to do my own emotional healing and work.

Walker Bird [00:31:18]:
Yeah.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:31:19]:
But it. It just shifted my whole view of reality. So that's where I got going.

Theresa Hubbard [00:31:27]:
So for you, when you. When you think. And I don't. I. I don't know, Judith, what words you would use. So use whatever is real for you.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:31:42]:
Okay.

Theresa Hubbard [00:31:45]:
When you think about, like, we're carrying things from. Not this lifetime, is there a way for you to describe what you feel like that is.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:32:04]:
Okay. I think I understand the question, but if I start giving you a different answer, let me know at birth. Well, first of all, I don't know if you're familiar with Michael Newton's work, but he wrote Destiny of Souls and Journey of Souls. He was a psychologist that did a lot of hypnotherapy. And he wasn't into other lifetimes or consciousness before birth. He was hypnotizing a lot of his patients back to early, early childhood. And many of them flipped into pre birth experiences. And he started keeping tapes of it.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:32:54]:
And it means they went. The descriptions are amazing. So in these two books, he really confirms, if you will, he was about to retire and then he said, I got to do something with this information. So what I believe happens is our souls, before we incarnate, make a decision of, oh, I'm gonna take on this curriculum. Now. Some people take on super tough curriculum without realizing how tough it's gonna be. But, you know, on a soul level, it is perhaps to test can we still remain compassionate or that we have to teach something. I mean, you know, there's numerous reasons why a soul might choose different experiences.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:33:45]:
But I do believe it's, it's Earth school. It's to try, learn and develop. And as we do that, we're still carrying, you know, assuming you, you, I hate to say believe, but accept the idea that through many, many, many incarnations where our soul is in other forms of bodies and has different experiences.

Theresa Hubbard [00:34:15]:
The.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:34:18]:
We are still carrying things from other experiences. What I think happens is we don't carry all of it because many, many people now on the planet are old souls. We've probably had thousands of lifetimes. You carry every trauma. There's just no way we can do that. But I believe there are themes and we choose those themes. And in the astrological birth chart, those themes can be read. And I've studied astrology, but that's not the kind of astrology I'm skilled at.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:34:54]:
But there are many who are. And those themes not only get read, but I believe they are carried in our cells. And that's what they're finding now. There's so much talk about lineage healing and, well, carrying cellular memory of other traumas, whether it came through the family or whether it came through our own experience. And I think it's both. And I think that it's in our cells and in our DNA, which, which are part of the DNA. As we open, more and more go through this ascension process, we get more access to that. So did that answer it, Teresa?

Theresa Hubbard [00:35:43]:
Yeah, it's helpful. I mean, there's just. I know there's a lot of beliefs. Right. About that. And I wanted. I wanted to understand. I mean, it's interesting, you know, for me, I think about everything in terms of energy.

Theresa Hubbard [00:36:03]:
And so for me, I think about, you know, when I die, energy changes, Forms. Right. And my energy then is out there for whatever, whoever, whatever. And it will be somewhere. And, you know, what came to mind as you are finishing was. I wish I could remember where I read this, but about it was a young girl who had needed a heart transplant, and she got the heart of another young girl who had been murdered. And she started having dreams, remembering all of what had happened to her. The heart that was in her happened.

Theresa Hubbard [00:37:05]:
That happened to the heart that was in her. And they were able to take the information from her dreams and locate the person that had murdered the little girl whose heart she had.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:37:16]:
Wow.

Theresa Hubbard [00:37:17]:
And so I just, you know, Anyway, that's what I think about.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:37:22]:
Yeah. I mean, I think it gets transmitted similarly. I don't know what form we take or don't take when we're not in a human body. I assume it's a journey and we have some form until, you know, perhaps you get so enlightened you just merge back with the great whatever. But what you're speaking of is really, I think, is really relevant because the energy in that heart, essentially, she got some of this girl's DNA.

Theresa Hubbard [00:38:01]:
Right, Right. And cellular memory. That's really the word that. That came. Right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:38:09]:
And I just read an interesting interview from a psychiatrist who is researching young children's stories about other lifetimes. And they've been able to locate the ones that are more current. They've been able to locate and confirm a lot of them.

Theresa Hubbard [00:38:30]:
It's so interesting.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:38:33]:
And this I do talk a lot about in the book. We've been conditioned with such a new narrow bandwidth of perception.

Theresa Hubbard [00:38:40]:
Absolutely.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:38:41]:
To say, oh, the only thing true is this. And then you begin to go, oh, maybe this and maybe. And the more you begin to expand, the more open to expanding. So you get aware of energy. You. You've broken free. Right. From that conditioned bandwidth.

Theresa Hubbard [00:39:01]:
Yes. Yeah. It's interesting what that brings to mind. And we may have talked about this. I can't remember, Judith, but, like, from a neurofeedback perspective, when I'm working with someone who is an adult, rarely and an adult do I see gamma waves. Rarely. But in young children, I see them all the time. And so it's not something that I've researched.

Theresa Hubbard [00:39:29]:
Just. Just something that I'm aware of.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:39:31]:
Yeah.

Theresa Hubbard [00:39:32]:
And if I do meet an adult who has high gamma waves, you know, to me, I think, okay, is that. Is that conditioning that they didn't respond to? Is it a part of their brain that didn't develop? But they, but they do, all of them. The ones that I've experienced in the however many years I've been doing neurofeedback now are all people who find that experience overwhelming.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:40:05]:
Oh, that's really interesting.

Theresa Hubbard [00:40:08]:
Yeah. And so for me, often it's, you know, I'll just say, you know, I don't know. I don't understand. I don't know that we really understand, you know, this. This part of your brain that still is, like, open to the universe. That's what I say. It's just open.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:40:24]:
And they don't have strategies.

Theresa Hubbard [00:40:26]:
Right, right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:40:28]:
You know, how to deal with that. And that is something that I feel like I've put in my books. Ways to begin. One, you need to get grounded.

Theresa Hubbard [00:40:37]:
Right, Right, right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:40:39]:
And. And understand you don't have to rush it, or you can learn to ask for things to come little by little. So. But if you're overloaded and you don't have anyone to confirm what's going on for you.

Theresa Hubbard [00:40:52]:
Right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:40:53]:
That would be really hard. Well, that's fascinating, Teresa. One that you're so conscious of that and seeing how this goes. And I think, you know, I don't know if you want to do the research, but I hope somebody does. I think it would be great.

Theresa Hubbard [00:41:10]:
Well, it's interesting. I think somebody is. I haven't gotten into it. And the reason it's on my mind is because I have a. A new client that I'm working with. And instantly I was like, oh, this all makes sense. And so I did start doing research. I just haven't gotten deep into it.

Theresa Hubbard [00:41:27]:
So I do know that it's happening and reframing. So not only, I mean, will I help her learn how to ground every day and really, you know, take care of her body that is overwhelmed by the amount of information that is coming in all the time, but also to reframe her story around it. Right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:41:48]:
Yes. To make it positive rather than.

Theresa Hubbard [00:41:51]:
Right. A burden. Right. There are things we can do to support your body as it is, for whatever reason, staying in this place. Yeah.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:42:03]:
Now, are you able to do neurofeedback virtually?

Theresa Hubbard [00:42:08]:
You know, I haven't. There are a few clinicians that I am aware of that do it remotely. And so the person. So, like, in this situation, you would have equipment that you would rent, you know, from either the practitioner or someone, you know, a manufacturer, and then the therapist is with you, and they're watching the data and observing you and giving you feedback. I do know that there are practitioners that do that. It is not something I have ever done.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:42:46]:
Okay. Yes. I happen to know that because I had looked into it for my grandson also during COVID everybody started doing. I mean, energy workers now are working remotely, which is very exciting. But the piece that, you know, for you specifically, you're tuning into this and what a wonderful source that would be for people in different parts entree world to be able to have access. So.

Theresa Hubbard [00:43:21]:
Yeah.

Walker Bird [00:43:21]:
Yeah.

Theresa Hubbard [00:43:22]:
What?

Walker Bird [00:43:22]:
I just. I'm thinking that Gamma would be a gift, you know, it is a gift.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:43:26]:
Oh.

Walker Bird [00:43:26]:
And yeah, they get the tools to start handling it.

Theresa Hubbard [00:43:30]:
Right. And that's what I tell them, you know, but it doesn't feel like that when they come in my office the first time.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:43:35]:
Exactly. How many other neurofeedback practitioners are conscious of that?

Theresa Hubbard [00:43:41]:
Right. I would guess. You know, I feel like I'm fortunate because the equipment that I purchased shows it to me, even though it doesn't record it unless I go in and very specifically set protocols to record it, which you don't, because most people don't have it or don't. It's not. We all have it. It's just at what degree, you know, is it active? Right. But the equipment that I have, it's called Eager EEG E R. You see it.

Theresa Hubbard [00:44:11]:
I mean, you know, the spectrum shows it. And so it's very obvious when, you know. So visually I see it. And I think some of that, too, Judith, is just how my brain works. I take in a lot of data, and I'm looking for patterns, and. And so it's absolutely stands out to me. And then when I realized I saw it in most children, like, not all children, but most children under the age of 10, that was common. More common.

Theresa Hubbard [00:44:42]:
But then to not see it in adults, except rarely, I was like, interesting. And then to make the connection that those adults are all people that tend to have an extreme amount of anxiety.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:44:55]:
Yes.

Theresa Hubbard [00:44:56]:
But that are also incredibly creative.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:44:59]:
Yeah. Empathic. Are they also. I mean, I would. They'd be super empathic, which is part of the Ascension process. But, yes. If you don't know what's going on, it's scary.

Theresa Hubbard [00:45:13]:
Right. It's just scary and overwhelming and exhausting and all the things. Yeah.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:45:21]:
You know, and that's going on collectively, too. Right. But anyway, I think that's really important information. And, you know, I'm so glad you do that. And I'm certainly hoping more and more practitioners will. Yeah, it's. That's going to increase. It's going to be interesting if you see.

Theresa Hubbard [00:45:39]:
Start seeing it more.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:45:41]:
Yeah, but that's what I believe is going on as we open more of those DNA strands. And if you live in a culture where that's fine.

Theresa Hubbard [00:45:52]:
Sure.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:45:53]:
You just know how to do it. You don't think anything of it.

Theresa Hubbard [00:45:57]:
Right, but.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:45:59]:
Right. So. But if you live in a culture that goes, no, whatever that does, you know, then how do you maneuver and how do. You don't have teachers to teach you very much and how to. What the gifts are, which is what you're doing versus what you think is a bad thing because it's overwhelming and scaring you.

Theresa Hubbard [00:46:26]:
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's thinking about how, you know, truly we can shut our body down. And so why. I don't. Why we couldn't wake it up, I don't know. Right, right.

Walker Bird [00:46:43]:
Is there a location of the electrodes or is that what they're called, where you. Where you've placed it on the head, where you spot the gamma in those people? Oh, you know, just comes up in different spaces for different people.

Theresa Hubbard [00:46:58]:
Yeah. Typically, I mean, I see it in the prefrontal cortex, but this, you know, the person that I was working with the other day, it was, you know, all. It was prefrontal, midline and parietal. It was all across this part, but actually not in the, like, farther. What we call C3, C4, and left and right hemispheres. I mean, it was normal, but, you know, like. So if you want to. If you want to talk about that as being like her crown.

Theresa Hubbard [00:47:25]:
Right. Yeah. Open. Open. Yeah, very open. Is that what you're.

Walker Bird [00:47:31]:
Yeah, that was what I was asking. No, I just think it's really cool I'd be trying all these experiments if I did what you did. Hey, we need to test this out.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:47:41]:
Oh, right.

Walker Bird [00:47:42]:
But I, you know, anyway.

Theresa Hubbard [00:47:44]:
Which would be different if I was a researcher, but. Right, right. I'm just trying to help them, you know, enjoy being on the planet instead of being miserable on the planet. Right, right. Which is what's hard about. Not for me, about not doing research, because research has a particular goal. Right. Which is to gather data.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:48:06]:
Right.

Theresa Hubbard [00:48:07]:
And for me, I just want to help them, and so I experiment with them individually. Right, yeah.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:48:14]:
But yes, you know, and as you say, there are. There is research being done. And, you know, I think we all come in with different jobs, descriptions, Essentially. And so, you know, you're really good at 1. At the piece of helping people adapt and utilize what they. The. How their brain works. And you don't have to do the research unless for some reason you're called to do it, but providing that information somehow, which you do on your podcast.

Theresa Hubbard [00:48:48]:
Right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:48:49]:
Could then help other practitioners, I would think, go away. Yes.

Theresa Hubbard [00:48:54]:
Right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:48:56]:
I need to look into this.

Theresa Hubbard [00:48:58]:
Right. Or inspire. You know, earlier today I actually did a call with some doctoral students out of the University of Texas, and we did talk about that.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:49:09]:
Yeah.

Theresa Hubbard [00:49:10]:
And that was. I mean, that was a fascinating conversation not to get into today, but I was explaining, you know, that piece to them. And so who knows what that speaks to. To them.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:49:22]:
Right, right, exactly. And which, you know who they're. What they're going to do with it.

Theresa Hubbard [00:49:29]:
Right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:49:29]:
Which is what their job description is.

Theresa Hubbard [00:49:33]:
Right. And their brains work a little differently than mine do. Right. As engineering. Yes. Yeah.

Walker Bird [00:49:42]:
So, Judith, in. In talking about being called, you know, to do something. And I know you give first private sessions about. In certain circumstances. Right. Because just in looking at your website about Soul's purpose. But when you talk about being called to do something, I'm guessing that you've had that experience in writing the books that you're writing and. And wanting us to move towards this collective transition.

Walker Bird [00:50:10]:
Could you tell us a little bit more about that piece for you? How have you been called and how do you check in if you need more?

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:50:17]:
Ah, okay. Yeah. I mean, I didn't get a literal. You're supposed to do this now. And somehow. And I think this really goes on for everybody, whether they're aware of it or not. You know, you kind of led. The synchronicities show up, things show up in your life.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:50:38]:
And if you pay attention, and you don't have to pay attention all the time, but the more you pay attention, the more clear the path becomes. The. And so I would think, you know, I've been led this in. I don't. It's such a good question, but I don't know if I can give you a good answer. I think part of it is as we get to know ourselves better. And again, this is so much in line with your podcast here. You can feel an inner alignment.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:51:16]:
And when you feel that alignment, it feels great for one thing, you know, and so as the hamsters we are where we tend to want to do that more now, it can feel scary too. I mean. That's right. And when I teach and work with people, let me try to find the kind of succinct way to say this. There's a lot of fear that comes up as well. So fear I experience is not at all just me. We've numerous souls have been proverbially burned at the stake, either literally or symbolically, for going against a cultural belief system that the majority of people are very attached to. The way to say it, on one hand, it feels great to feel called, but then you have to go with, okay, what am I in danger? Are people gonna.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:52:31]:
And the physical danger these days, hopefully it stays that way, but that's pretty low. The. But the emotional danger of people thinking you're crazy or weird and, you know, so that all comes up in the process of being called. But for me, I was very lucky. Shortly after I had that awakening, I moved to Springfield, Illinois, that had a very progressive university that was actually. It was an upper level Illinois did two upper level universities, juniors and seniors, that was created in response to a lot of the student revolution in the 60s. So it was very cool, for lack of a better way to say it. You know, they got a lot of interesting people in that were teaching there.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:53:22]:
They pulled in a lot of students. There were. There was a huge alternative community. And so I had a lot of support as I began to open be called more and more and more, I had a lot of support. So it didn't matter if I was weird or people thought I was crying. The people I liked all got it, so to speak. Sadly, it's not true for everybody. Yeah.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:53:53]:
Right. And so it calls on us to be brave.

Theresa Hubbard [00:53:56]:
Absolutely.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:53:57]:
Activate that courage.

Theresa Hubbard [00:53:58]:
And Absolutely.

Walker Bird [00:54:01]:
I've got a great card. It's of a cat with rainbow colors and it says cat Must day. The weirdness in me salutes the weirdness in you.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:54:13]:
Exactly. There it is. That's beautiful.

Walker Bird [00:54:19]:
Yeah.

Theresa Hubbard [00:54:19]:
Yeah. Judith, I talk a lot about being brave. Yeah. And I recently wrote a meditation, and initially I had it called Being Brave. It's going to come out in the next week or two. But it was interesting because as I presented it in a few different settings before I recorded it, the phrase that really struck people as I went through the meditation was I was. Was Softening into Courage.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:54:54]:
Oh, that's lovely.

Theresa Hubbard [00:54:56]:
Isn't that interesting? Because being brave, you know, is just language I use. But how many people were like, wow, when you said Softening into Courage, you know, like something in their body responded to that, you know, which was different than bracing ourselves. Right, right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:55:15]:
Or right.

Theresa Hubbard [00:55:17]:
Oh, the.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:55:18]:
The old. Really. It's the masculine model. You've got to force things Right. And what I really hear you saying is allowing the courage.

Theresa Hubbard [00:55:27]:
Right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:55:28]:
Which is beautiful.

Theresa Hubbard [00:55:30]:
Right.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:55:31]:
Softening into Courage. How interesting.

Theresa Hubbard [00:55:33]:
Yeah. Anyway, so that's the name of it now.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:55:36]:
Okay, that's great. And I think it just. Those words, as you found out, are really instructive to people.

Theresa Hubbard [00:55:43]:
Yes.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:55:44]:
All right. Because it is really allowing ourselves to just kind of go into that surrender.

Theresa Hubbard [00:55:49]:
Yes.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:55:50]:
And. And that's where you can really follow when you're being called, so.

Theresa Hubbard [00:55:57]:
Right. Oh, yay.

Walker Bird [00:56:01]:
Well, I'm looking forward to reading the Ascension. Ascension Journey.

Theresa Hubbard [00:56:04]:
Yeah.

Walker Bird [00:56:05]:
And learning more specifically about your processes and the tools that you're giving. So thank you so much.

Theresa Hubbard [00:56:11]:
Yeah, I agree.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:56:13]:
So welcome. It was my pleasure. It was my. I love talking to you both.

Theresa Hubbard [00:56:20]:
We enjoy you, Judith.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:56:21]:
Yeah, thank you. There's. How available. Should people be watching? No, it's available pre order. The. The. That was another irony of this morning, because if my channel gets taken down permanently and I try to put up a different channel, every meditation I have in the book gives this particular channel. Just went into this week.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:56:46]:
Typesetting, like there's been a review copy already.

Theresa Hubbard [00:56:50]:
Wow.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:56:50]:
But in terms of permanent typesetting, where they don't change anything.

Theresa Hubbard [00:56:54]:
Wow.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:56:55]:
So.

Walker Bird [00:56:58]:
So if you have it available, where can people find you?

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:57:01]:
Oh, it's on Amazon. It's on Inner Traditions, independent bookstores, Barnes and Noble, they can find it pretty much anywhere. And certainly they can get on my website, which is Empowering the Spirit. I just upgraded my website. My. I have this fabulous assistant and, Judith, you need a new website and I can do it for you.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:57:29]:
She just didn't. She's done all my work, you know, she's taken all my classes and she's going to be. She's teaching now some as well. She's so aligned the energy of this work that I'm really excited about the website. So, empoweringthe spirit.com. Yeah.

Theresa Hubbard [00:57:47]:
And we'll have all the links in the description for the podcast too. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you, Judith.

Walker Bird [00:57:55]:
Thanks.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:57:55]:
Oh, you're so welcome. And thank you. I probably will be using Softening into Courage.

Theresa Hubbard [00:58:04]:
Softening into Courage. Yeah. Thank you.

Judith Corvin-Blackburn [00:58:10]:
Okay. You both take care. Whatever way works. Yeah.

Theresa Hubbard [00:58:16]:
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you for joining us today. We are excited to explore life with you. We encourage curiosity, self growth and we strive to be more compassionate every day.